there was an election and president obama campaigned principally on that point and won and i do think we ought to be willing to give on that point. do i think that house republicans have some reason to also expect commitment to spending cuts to balance that. and what disappoints moo he is that speaker boehner and the president made real progress. the president made real concessions going up to some say $400,000 in his negotiations. and speaker boehner was unwilling to give the confidence about the debt ceiling raise that he needed back for them to be able to put together the sort of bigger bolder bipartisan package that would have is done the right thing for our country. here we are at the last moment wondering whether when we in the senate take up the house passed piece of legislation amend it and send it back to them whether they will take it up for a vote before the end of the year and prevent the overwhelming majority of americans seeing their taxes go up before january 1. >> shannon: there on the hill a lot of uncertainty as you wait to see what leaders have been hammering out. a